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« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2021, 02:19:19 14:19 » |
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I've experinced both , and my approaches are going to be on soldering and desoldering life of the PCB , They both are reflowable upto 4 times , after that the tiny pads might loose and seperate from the FR4 epoxy .. Signal quality have been measured with various scopes (LeCroy) and there is no significant resistive or inductive poor copper quality . Other measurements have been taken after the PCBs have been used for a long time and there is no bending or copper seperation issues detected . They are both good but I like the JLC a bit more than the PCBWAYs edge rails are more rigid that makes things easier for the assembly machine . (They are not easily deformed or broken nor it is too hard to break them .)
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« Reply #26 on: September 29, 2021, 02:09:39 14:09 » |
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I have used both of them in the past, and for low volume I didn't found any major difference. If I had to choose, JLCPCB would have my preference, but it is purely subjective.
I didn't ordered recently, or at least not since Europe introduce this new VAT payment for non-European sourced items on 1st July 2021. It is not clear if both companies includes VAT into order, and if not included, then country will charge you upon receipt the 20% extra for VAT and a fixed fee of ~7$ per shipment. For low volume, the 7$ fixed fee make a big difference, while the VAT is what you would have paid anyway.
This is something I need to consider for next order... OH
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« Reply #27 on: October 07, 2021, 07:07:06 07:07 » |
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In my company, I use JLC and PCBWay in different terms. 1. Cheap -> JLC 2. Quality -> PCBWay
Because I found many quality problems with JLC such as solder mask, trace and so on. When I found problems with JLC's pcb. I complained to them and they asked me to take photos. I couldn't do it for them because the PCB is already assembled.
Instead of PCBWay, they give back in credit without much more questions.
For the shipping, there is no problem at all for both of them.
For me, if you need quality, The PCBWay is better than JLC. (Usually, I order 2layer and 4 layer FR4 PCB)
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« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2022, 09:29:24 09:29 » |
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JLC cannot manufacture more complex pcbs (>6L, >2oz, etc). Pcbway can do it all, but they are starting to get very expensive. Recently, the offer price was doubled after the design review without any reason. So I ordered it from Allpcb.
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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2023, 08:31:24 08:31 » |
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I vote for JLCPCB
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« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2023, 08:08:23 08:08 » |
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Hi
For cheep project or test JLC offer low cost PCB is most suitable For more complex PCB and batter quality PCBWay is the answer Till today I only use JLC for doing some test circuit
All the best
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« Reply #31 on: February 06, 2023, 11:13:28 11:13 » |
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I have made many boards with JLPCB and their quality and service is very good.
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« Reply #32 on: February 06, 2023, 03:58:00 15:58 » |
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And I don’t like it anymore, they closed the possibility of assembling printed circuit boards for Ukraine
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2023, 01:54:40 13:54 » |
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Take a look at this manufacturer. They have not said anything about stopping the production of orders for Ukraine, they seem to be working fine. Take a look at this manufacturer. They have not said anything about stopping the production of orders for Ukraine, they seem to be working fine. Both board manufacturing and assembly https://www.seeedstudio.com/fusion_pcb.html
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« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2023, 04:52:03 04:52 » |
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JLCPCB disappointed me. You can make boards and stencils from any manufacturer, the cost is almost the same. And you have to orient to the assembly in Ukraine. This, of course, adds a lot of additional work, but as they say - “It happened worse”
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« Reply #35 on: February 08, 2023, 08:59:44 08:59 » |
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A few years ago I looked into the cost of producing PCBs in house. And half way came to the conclusion That the investment was not worth it at all. Even for non plated two layer simple prototypes. We found it is better to at a very early phase to give the customer the options we have regarding PCB production. Most go for the domestic alternative, because has a shorter lead time and is safer
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« Reply #36 on: February 08, 2023, 09:15:00 09:15 » |
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Unfortunately, in Ukraine the cost of manufacturing printed circuit boards is often 3-4 times higher than in China, and the quality is from the expression “Very disgusting”. By assembly, you can find acceptable factories, but the problem is with the availability of components.
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« Reply #37 on: February 08, 2023, 10:08:07 10:08 » |
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I think the current problem to get pcb from china to ukraina is that international couriers currently don't deliver/pick up in ukraine, russia and belarus due to the current geopolitical situation. On the homepage of all couriers it is clearly written that international delivery services in Ukraine are suspended. The cost to make PCBs in China is decidedly lower than that offered by local services in one's own country, for example in Europe the average cost for two double-sided PCBs 100x100 mm with solder and silkscreen is more than 80 Euros with delivery in 4-6 working days, in China the same pcb with 5 Euros they give me 5 piece, plus shipping with Fedex, 3-5 working days for delivery, the total cost comes to less than 23 Euros.
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« Reply #38 on: February 08, 2023, 10:36:35 10:36 » |
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The possibility of manufacturing and delivering printed circuit boards to Ukraine is available from JLCPCB. Build not available. And without assembly, the whole point of ordering boards only at JLCPCB is lost; they really did it efficiently and at a high professional level. The cost of manufacturing just printed circuit boards is the same for many factories.
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