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« on: April 25, 2020, 02:27:23 14:27 »
Hello, I am sharing the process required to load and run 2 hex files on the same processor. In fact, we create a hybrid hex  Wink PDF can be downloaded from the link:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SM9Jb_X7pND7xT8l1uz0ecXdN0g3MUbH/view

Turkish version download link:

https://www.elektroinfo.org/2020/04/pic-iki-hex-yuklemek-birlestirmek.html
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« Reply #1 on: April 25, 2020, 03:06:11 15:06 »
Useless and complicated procedure, if i want to run two different tasks on a processor just manage it directly from the code simply with an if on a condition.

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It is not necessary to change the capacitor for Vusb according to the task, just put one of 220 nF, optimal one 1 uF ceramic.
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« Reply #2 on: April 25, 2020, 03:33:32 15:33 »
Quote from: Xwing on April 25, 2020, 03:06:11 15:06
Useless and complicated procedure, if i want to run two different tasks on a processor just manage it directly from the code simply with an if on a condition.

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It is not necessary to change the capacitor for Vusb according to the task, just put one of 220 nF, optimal one 1 uF ceramic.

I could not encode due to different USB INC files. So I had to use this method. Also, I don't think the method is useless. I prepared the PDF document to reduce clutter. Only 100mf VUSB capacitor value can be selected.
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« Reply #3 on: April 25, 2020, 04:27:49 16:27 »
Quote from: Xwing on April 25, 2020, 03:06:11 15:06
Useless and complicated procedure, if i want to run two different tasks on a processor just manage it directly from the code simply with an if on a condition.

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It is not necessary to change the capacitor for Vusb according to the task, just put one of 220 nF, optimal one 1 uF ceramic.

You can't do that with USB communication, USB stack for HID is different from CDC, so this method will work for this specific situation.

Anything else will just work with a special IF statement
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« Reply #4 on: April 25, 2020, 04:33:28 16:33 »
Quote from: Ahmad_k on April 25, 2020, 04:27:49 16:27
You can't do that with USB communication, USB stack for HID is different from CDC, so this method will work for this specific situation.

Anything else will just work with a special IF statement

Exactly. It works with this method. In fact, it has already turned into a product. USB cdc and USB hid relay controller:


https://www.sedaelektronik.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=178

I share the hex code for those who want to make the circuit. Controls portb and portd.

Code:
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« Reply #5 on: April 25, 2020, 06:58:34 18:58 »
What if both the hex needs to use one or more same interrupts and which interrupt routine will get executed? As ahmad said may be useful for this specific project but i doubt this method will work for other projects. Still this method is something new which i believe most of us have never thinked this way...
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2020, 08:25:02 20:25 »
Quote from: madhan7710 on April 25, 2020, 06:58:34 18:58
What if both the hex needs to use one or more same interrupts and which interrupt routine will get executed? As ahmad said may be useful for this specific project but i doubt this method will work for other projects. Still this method is something new which i believe most of us have never thinked this way...

Correct. As you can see he is using proton (very limited usb stack), you can use USB stack in either poll or interrupt mode.
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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2020, 09:04:27 21:04 »
Quote from: Ahmad_k on April 25, 2020, 04:27:49 16:27
You can't do that with USB communication, USB stack for HID is different from CDC, so this method will work for this specific situation.

Obviously the USB operation is different depending on the case, but this does not prevent the creation of the various modes in the code to be changed according to how it is needed.
Note that a processor reset is not required to change the USB connection, it can be done at runtime after disconnecting from the host.
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« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2020, 05:47:14 17:47 »
Firmware can decide to which stack used.  
So jumper or button not needed.  

PIC runs as HID  for 5 hours and firmware decided thats enough. Store the flag to eeprom. And restart via watchdog. After reestart runs as CDC.

Or user can select mode from PC. flags stored again.

Better way USB composite device with 2 interface.
1 device always HID. This device used for mode select. Another HID or CDC
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« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2020, 06:00:52 18:00 »
Quote from: lm317 on April 26, 2020, 05:47:14 17:47
Firmware can decide to which stack used. 
So jumper or button not needed. 

PIC runs as HID  for 5 hours and firmware decided thats enough. Store the flag to eeprom. And restart via watchdog. After reestart runs as CDC.

Or user can select mode from PC. flags stored again.

Better way USB composite device with 2 interface.
1 device always HID. This device used for mode select. Another HID or CDC

Just read my post again, he is using "PROTON". you cannot include two stacks in your project without a big modification. It is way more simple if you use XC8 or XC16 compiler
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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2020, 10:23:45 22:23 »
I updated the PDF document. Added address correction that causes Hex2 not to work. Notes 3 - Page 3-4

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SM9Jb_X7pND7xT8l1uz0ecXdN0g3MUbH/view
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