FBI shuts down Megaupload, makes arrests

[Bluemitts]

this is an intereting article about how some of the other sites are responding .http://tumichael.com/internet-marketing/filesonic-other-file-sharing-sites-closed/

It makes you wonder how many of the big corporates who are complaining, are also avoiding paying their taxes.

[pickit2]

go with rapidshare microsoft is a partner,  being so gready they will fight to keep the money rollin' in.

[solutions]

Found this on another site, for those who care:

Filehost: Server / Office

4shared.com: USA / USA
badongo.com: USA / USA
bitshare.com: USA / USA
bigupload.com: Netherlands / USA
data-loading.com: Germany / Germany
depositfiles.com: USA / Cyprus
crocko.com: Netherlands / Cyprus
filebase.to: Germany / Germany
filefactory.com: Netherlands / Netherlands
files.mail.ru: Russia / Russia
filesonic.com: Netherlands / HongKong
fileserve.com: USA / USA
filepost.com: Hong Kong+USA / Hong Kong
freakshare.com: Netherlands / Seychelles
Ge.tt: Ireland / Denmark
gigasize.com: Canada / Canada
hotfile.com: USA / Panama
hulkshare.com: Netherlands / HongKong
kewlshare.com: Germany / Germany
kickload.com: Germany / United Kingdom
Limelinx.com: Canada / Canada
load.to: Fance /United Kingdom
mediafire.com: USA / USA
megaupload.com: USA / HongKong
netload.in: Germany / Germany
Onlinedisk.ru: Russia / Russia
oron.com: Netherlands / USA
putlocker.com: ?? / Bahamas
rapidshare.com: Germany / Switzerland
remixshare.com: Germany / Germany
sendspace.com: USA / USA
share-now.net: France / HongKong
share-online.biz: Netherlands / Belize
sharebase.to: Netherlands / Germany
sharehoster.com: Germany /United Kingdom
shragle.com: France+Germany / Seychelles
sHost.ch: Switzerland / Switzerland
speedshare.org: Netherlands / Seychelles
speedyshare.com: USA / Seychelles
tinyupload.com: France / Poland
ugotfile.com: USA / Australia
uploaded.to: Netherlands / HongKong
uploadbox.com: Netherlands / USA
uploading.com: Cyprus / Hong Kong
videozer.com: USA / USA
Wupload.com: USA+Netherlands / HongKong
x7.to: Netherlands / HongKong
xup.in: Luxembourg / USA + Malaysia
yourfiles.biz: Netherlands / Netherlands
zippyshare.com: France / Germany
zshare.net: USA / HongKong

[nidhisahu]

And now they shut down

Largest ebook library library.nu and may be very soon ifile.it

NEWS from http://torrentfreak.com/book-publishers-shut-down-library-nu-and-ifile-it-120215/

Now very soon situation is going to very very terrible.

If they day by day kill varios sharing sites vey soon we don't have choice

for shareing anything . . .

[solutions]

From: http://torrentfreak.com/book-publishers-shut-down-library-nu-and-ifile-it-120215/

"Update: response added from the ifile.it owner, who noted that they only shut down anonymous uploads."

But ifile.it doesn't make money from anonymous U/Ls.  This makes no sense.

[LithiumOverdosE]

The book download portal Library.nu and cyberlocker ifile.it appear to have ‘shut down’ voluntarily after a coalition of book publishers managed to get an injunction against the two sites. According to the complaint, the sites offered users access to 400,000 e-books and made more than $11 million in revenue in the process.

BTW - I still don't understand why Sonsivri doesn't stop Google indexing of at least software sections? I mean, if it comes down to provide EDA related discussions then those sections could be kept open while software sections could be closed to indexing bots and general public (if not, then what's the point of members invitation system?). Even TPB is soon going to block torrent links for more than 10 downloads and provide only Magnet links (it was stated somewhere on their recent blog entries). Why not protecting Sonsivri at least to some extent?

And of course posted links should all be put in txt attachments to protect links at least to some extent. That's IMO of course but I don't see any flaw with my logic. Am I missing something?

[solutions]

Fileserve is now useless

[CocaCola]

If they day by day kill varios sharing sites vey soon we don't have choice

for shareing anything . . .

The sky isn't falling, it's just going about business as normal...  I have been watching sites fall since the 80s, anyone else use file sharing dial into BBS forums?  There has NEVER EVER been a shortage of sharing going on, no matter how hard they have cracked down...

The law will kill the big and popular fish in the pond, but they will never head off the every growing smaller ones behind it, or the ones that are simply not popular with the mass public...

Ironically the oldest file sharing (actually forum) network on the Internet (USENET) is booming and is stronger than it has ever been, no need to worry about sharing going anywhere anytime soon, just ride the wave until the next wave arrives...

[pushycat]

Yes...i do strongly agree with "CocaCola". They shut down one, two more will be hosted in other name/s. Its just like what we had heard long back about closing or preventing porn sites bieng acessed by under aged. But till date nothing has done or could be done..coz its impossible. Just chill..
Pushy..

[solutions]

Looks like ORON is now gone - is it?

[IntelGent]

I can confirm that uploading is still possible in the U.S. as I just uploaded a version of Nitro Pro as a test.

[solutions]

Thanks - looks like it may be a JDownloader problem.

[solutions]

So, my friends, here's why I think, after over a decade of looking the other way, the US government has cracked down on file hosting sites like Megaupload:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/with-introduction-of-google-drive-google-steps-up-competition-with-apple/2012/04/28/gIQAX5lJoT_story.html?tid=pm_business_pop

Herding sheep.

[solutions]

Arrogant US bastards get their asses handed to them in court....

http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-18623043

Megaupload raid warrant 'invalid', New Zealand judge says
28 June 2012 Last updated at 07:55 GMT

The search warrants used to raid the home of Megaupload owner Kim Dotcom were invalid, a New Zealand judge has ruled.

Action by the FBI to copy data and take it offshore to the US was also deemed unlawful.

"The warrants did not adequately describe the offences to which they related," High Court judge Justice Helen Winkelmann said.

Mr Dotcom was arrested, along with four others, in January.

Millions of dollars in assets were seized or frozen including almost 20 luxury vehicles, dozens of computers and art works.

However, Justice Winkelmann said the warrant for the search fell "well short" of outlining Mr Dotcom's alleged offences.

"They were general warrants, and as such, are invalid," she said.

In response to the judge's decision, New Zealand police said they were in discussions with Crown Law "to determine what further action might be required".

Mr Dotcom's site was said to have made $175m since 2005 by copying and distributing copyrighted material without authorisation.

The site's lawyers have said Megaupload simply offered online storage.

Mr Dotcom is currently on bail.

[CocaCola]

Well that is bound to put a serious cramp on pursuing charges in NZ and actually getting an extradition to the US to face charges...

[chicane]

They should fire the judge that signed the warrant, since it was a "general warrants, and as such, are invalid", but you know they won't.  

The FBI still got access to copy his files and take the files out of the country. They say after the fact that removing the files was unlawful, conveniently late oversight.

He may be safe from charges in NZ, but if he goes to any country with a US extradition agreement, that is when they will use the illegally obtained information.  The hypocrisy never ceases.

I guess Dotcom will be staying put in NZ for the foreseeable future. Not so bad I guess, NZ is a nice country.

[dozer]

BTW - I still don't understand why Sonsivri doesn't stop Google indexing of at least software sections? I mean, if it comes down to provide EDA related discussions then those sections could be kept open while software sections could be closed to indexing bots and general public (if not, then what's the point of members invitation system?). Even TPB is soon going to block torrent links for more than 10 downloads and provide only Magnet links (it was stated somewhere on their recent blog entries). Why not protecting Sonsivri at least to some extent?

And of course posted links should all be put in txt attachments to protect links at least to some extent. That's IMO of course but I don't see any flaw with my logic. Am I missing something?

That is the best post in the thread.

I too have wondered why so many files are posted in their real names....here....and worst of all, on the filehost sites themselves!

That's just dumb.  It doesn't take a big-corp to use google to find the stuff...the hosters like ifile.it have begun doing periodic search and 'cleanup' of their server-farms -themselves-.

Paying attention to naming...always....will -help-.  Won't magically solve the entire problem, but it'll help.  -Anything- that puts 'sand in their gears' is worth doing.

I would not mind at all seeing the mods here 'get serious' in enforcing this here.

Further, don't allow posts with files posted at known-bad hosts....such as the ones which require an 'account'.  That's nothing but blatant email harvesting.  Where do you think all 10 million of megauploads harvested email-addresses are sitting right now?  Yeah...-there-...

I wasn't aware that our site -didn't- prevent gov-google crawling!

A block of that is pretty easy to implement, isn't it?

I wouldn't mind at all seeing all file-posts go 'private', trusted members only.

Emule-  personally, I love emule.  Coming from a dialup-perspective....it's ideal....it resumes automatically and as many times as needed.  I just leave the PC on overnight, or for an entire week if need be.  FTP is always my first choice, but with that rarely being available (under current ways of doing things here), emule is a pretty good 2nd choice.  Torrents are too, I suppose...but only if the links are available here.  Wading through the endless crap 'torrent-search' sites is a real PITA.  Try it at 28kb sometime, instead of 2800kb.  99 in 100 of those sites/google-hits are pure money-sucking garbage sites.
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I could see us relying more on PM's between trusted members...although that raises the serious issue of personal life-hours consumed...

I'm afraid there's no easy or perfect solution, and it's clear that the trend IS towards more and more difficulty, but cleaning up our own act as mentioned in the post I quoted, would be a good start.  Think of it as training for the 'olympic events' coming in a few years...

[CocaCola]

Coming from a dialup-perspective....

By choice or are you in a remote area that has no broadband service?  If there is broadband in your area it might be worth investing in a high gain directional Yagi antenna and an external USB network radio, mount it and give your area a 360° sweep... I'm always amazed at the amount of open networks to be found...  I hooked a friend up with a cheap Asian setup (about $40 if I remember correctly) about 2 years ago, found an open 'commercial' broadband connection in his area, he has been golden for two years now...  Even better if you live near a hotel, cafe or whatever that offers free wireless access, just point at them...

[solutions]

For a know-it-all, dozer, I think you fail to realize that DISTRIBUTION is definitely infringing, so your advocacy of e-mule and torrent stuff is very risky behavior, IMO.

I'm not sure possession of something you found, or were given, is infringing, despite what the copyright parasites want us to think.

Or, are you one of --them-- ?

 

PM's go completely against the grain of what this site is about - SHARING knowledge with everyone, contributing more than you take.  So many people are under the really bad impression that when they make an REQ, it is being filled for them....it's not...it's for everyone's knowledge, reference, and spurs innovation and creativity. Your advocacy of PM is completely misplaced and if you are doing it, you may not have read the site rules and should....

And one thing that really grinds my gears is when I grab a few books to read, my downloader has put w34ri3453.pdf and 02983485.pdf into my DL folder. Great, now tell me what those book titles are after a week or so. At least something intelligible if the actual titles don't work well.

The people that run this place and who slap members once in a while know what they are doing and do it well.  I believe they have plenty of battle scars already that have no place being talked about here. Suggestions are great, but they belong in the site suggestions thread, not on a gestapo-bashing thread.

Major overhaul, though? I wouldn't want one, myself.

[CocaCola]

And one thing that really grinds my gears is when I grab a few books to read, my downloader has put w34ri3453.pdf and 02983485.pdf into my DL folder. Great, now tell me what those book titles are after a week or so. At least something intelligible if the actual titles don't work well.

For that reason I immediately rename stuff, and for compressed archives (especially password protected ones) I immediately extract them into an appropriately named directory/folder...

I'm not sure possession of something you found, or were given, is infringing, despite what the copyright parasites want us to think.

Known possession of 'stolen' property is generally illegal in itself, but it's certainly a much harder uphill battle to prove in court thus the reason copyright owners generally stick to 'distributors' as that's a lot easier to prove and show...

The eDonkey network had it's time, if you were lucky to be connected to a good server back in the day you could get a ton of great stuff...  Now (what's left) is pretty much just junk and a playground patrolled by copyright police for extortion settlement campaigns, or kiddie porn cops looking to bust sickos...  Nowadays I would not be caught dead on an eD2K network...

[dozer]

By choice or are you in a remote area that has no broadband service?  If there is broadband in your area it might be worth investing in a high gain directional Yagi antenna and an external USB network radio, mount it and give your area a 360° sweep... I'm always amazed at the amount of open networks to be found...  I hooked a friend up with a cheap Asian setup (about $40 if I remember correctly) about 2 years ago, found an open 'commercial' broadband connection in his area, he has been golden for two years now...  Even better if you live near a hotel, cafe or whatever that offers free wireless access, just point at them...

Not by choice CC...there just isn't any broadband available here.  Even the POTS line is 'iffy'...a 56k modem gives 28.8 usually.  Some lucky days 33.6.

I thank you for the wireless suggestions.  Having done a career of EE (mostly analog and power elex), that's something I looked into.  The problem is location...we live in the mountains...and the cabin's down...between folds, in a valley.  Even cell-signal is mostly absent here.  It sure is peaceful and relaxing tho! ...lol
thanks again for your thoughts cc.

[dozer]

Solutions, the name-calling and attack upon my honor really weren't appropriate.  For your information, when I joined a few years back, there wasn't any mechanism in place for donations, so I asked how to help...cold-cash kinda help...and sent that cash to SS himself the very day I signed on.  It was no huge amount, but my honor is known to him...and my position vis-a-vis sharing and helping others is clear as glass.

In regards to your criticism of posting my thoughts here...  We are conversing in the >>'General'<< area my friend...and I was joining a subject/discussion already in progress in the posts; such as the good one by Lithium that I quoted.

As to your other 'criticisms'...I can only suggest that you check your premises.  Your point about 'distribution' is well-taken, yet it was also implying that deliberately uploading a specific file in response to an REQ (the usual modus here) is somehow -not- distribution.  That strikes me as...avoidant...or at the least, inaccurate.

In regards to your tirade about 'sharing', and the attempt to cast me as a 'non-sharer'....even a casual review of my post clearly shows an intent and desire to foster ongoing sharing >>in an environment of increasing threat<<.

We are not an 'open' forum in the first place.  The decision to put certain protections/shielding in place has already been (wisely) made by SS and the mods.  So it's a bit disingenuous to attack a good member as 'against sharing' only for discussing -options- and -levels- of the decision already made by the owner.

Solutions, since you disagree about obfuscating things as much as possible, you'll likely be surprised to hear I was smiling in great empathy with you...

When you got to the part about.."02983485.pdf" I cracked up .  Yeah, been there dude...arrggghh...  Like CC, I eventually forced myself into the habit of -always- renaming stuff...right_fookin_now.  Works.

Good fortune and goodwill to all,

dozer

[optikon]

@Solutions, yeah having to rename stuff all the time is a drag. Just have some faith that non-sense filenames keep files alive longer on the web to be shared.

@Dozer, take the others advice, stay away from P2P networks and torrents. Private ftp & Filehosts way to go. 28.8k ? now way... you can walk to the server with a thumbdrive in hand to get files faster.

In my experience, obscure archive filenames and password protection *with* encryption keeps them alive longest.

I am hoping that some greedy people from non-US countries made a note about how wealthy the mega-upload owner was. Perhaps they will start-up their own sharing site with hopes and dreams to get as big. And we all will benefit. All the megaupload customers are looking for a new ice cream stand now.

[CocaCola]

In my experience, obscure archive filenames and password protection *with* encryption keeps them alive longest.

If you want longevity and speed, look no further then arguably the oldest file sharing network, USENET...  Most premium USENET providers don't censor or delete anything, and have archives going back at least a year or two if not longer...  And because of it's spawning nature, once uploaded it's propagated across hundreds of other servers, with no way for the claimant to get them removed without going to each provider it spawned to and asking, and as I said most don't comply with the request...  And in the end most content provides don't even go after USENET to start with, it's simply ignored most of the time due to their inability to actually get stuff taken down...  IMO for $10 or so a month a premium USENET subscription is worth every penny, it's just too bad a lot of the content here is never mirrored there...

stay away from P2P networks and torrents

I find nothing wrong with private or semi-private torrent trackers, yes most public trackers are horrible but private trackers can be very good, especially now that people are using seed boxes hooked to big bandwidth on many private trackers...

[Magnox]

The problem is location...we live in the mountains...and the cabin's down...between folds, in a valley.  Even cell-signal is mostly absent here.  It sure is peaceful and relaxing tho! ...lol
thanks again for your thoughts cc.

I often think myself fortunate to live within spitting distance of the exchange - and I sometimes do spit at it when BT mess it up. Being able to get whatever the current maximum broadband speed that's installed is nice, but...

...I would swap with you in a heartbeat for that location! Cities are over rated and too noisy. For me, getting near a mountain is a rare treat.

It doesn't seem that long ago that the only decent source of sharing (and having discussions like this) was usenet, and then I rarely got more than 28.8kbaud. It was amazing at the time though. Now, most people don't even know what usenet is. Funny how things change.

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lol - I see that CocaCola has mentioned usenet too, while I was slowly waking up and typing this. I still have an independent usenet account (my ISP, like most, is useless for it).

There's always the deep (is that what they are calling it these days?) web too...