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« on: January 17, 2007, 07:21:37 07:21 »

what about Brenner 8 USB pic & dsPic programmer
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/pic/projekte/brenner8/index.htm
it's free and is working great (tested with many pic and few dsPic)
it's new recent (summer-winter 2006) and allready support 173 PIC models

it can be used to program and/or to power pic from usb, in ZIF or In Circuit
i use-it with "universal programming module" from microchip (free also)
if anyboby intered i will post here eagle files for programmer and programming module (boards are made by me)

i will try to post some pictures
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2007, 10:22:18 10:22 »

Thnx! I was looking for this for a while.

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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2007, 01:05:03 13:05 »

Hi pls share your design  Grin ...and what ver. EAGLE u Have ?

yours
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2007, 04:20:07 16:20 »

eSilviu,

Please ... if possible, also Eagle sch file, Hex code & Application for programming (and also setting if any)
Also, the guides if any for dsPIC.


Thanks a lot friend.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2007, 04:41:53 16:41 »

schematics + board
http://rapidshare.com/files/12119839/brenner8pmini.zip.html

universal programming module
http://rapidshare.com/files/12120084/upg.zip.html

firmware, drivers, software and so on... originally from sprut:
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/soft/usburn/usburn15rc1.zip

no settings to set; just do a Vpp calibration after u installed programmer on windows
a 3.3V Zenner diode in programmer is used as voltage reference for Vpp measuring. it is possible to use another diode and u need calibration of the programmer


(i programed my 18f2550 with a simple jdm2 programmer, powered by serial port, with WinPic
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html)
works great too

eagle legalizer, if any of you need to recover old eagle files, created with cracked version of eagle
http://rapidshare.com/files/12552912/eagle_legalizer.zip.html
(my files do open with freeware version)
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« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2007, 05:51:55 17:51 »

Hi
You have made a really good job of redesigning the board. I built the original brenner board but yours looks much nicer. Thank you for sharing. Smiley
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« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2007, 07:18:15 19:18 »

eSilviu,

Also, the guides if any for dsPIC.

Thanks a lot friend.
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information from winpic help
(it works for dspic's tested by me)"


Beware: The dsPIC30F2010's pinout looks similar to other PIC16F and PIC18F devices on first sight, but it is not compatible ! The following table may help to build an adapter for most dsPIC's with 28 pin standard DIP case, to be programmed with an old 18-pin PIC programming interface:



(*) About PGD and PGC filtering: There was a note on the Microchip forum (by Olin Lathrop) about programming the dsPIC30F201(**), suggesting to put 22..47 pF on the PGD and PGC lines to ground near the target chip. In addition, put a 100 ohm resistor in series with the PGD line between target chip and the cap. The resistor and cap on the PGD line low pass filter the PGD signal when it is driven by the target chip. This reduces the high frequencies that can couple onto the PGC line. The cap on the PGC line makes it less suceptible to coupled noise.
(**) We later found out that this important note also applies to the PIC18Fxxxx family. A user of a Velleman PIC programmer reported success with a PIC18F4520 after adding 2 * 33 pF caps and a 100 Ohm series resistor.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 12:59:42 12:59 »

schematics + board
http://rapidshare.com/files/12119839/brenner8pmini.zip.html

universal programming module
http://rapidshare.com/files/12120084/upg.zip.html

firmware, drivers, software and so on... originally from sprut:
http://www.sprut.de/electronic/soft/usburn/usburn15rc1.zip

no settings to set; just do a Vpp calibration after u installed programmer on windows
a 3.3V Zenner diode in programmer is used as voltage reference for Vpp measuring. it is possible to use another diode and u need calibration of the programmer


(i programed my 18f2550 with a simple jdm2 programmer, powered by serial port, with WinPic
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html)
works great too

eagle legalizer, if any of you need to recover old eagle files, created with cracked version of eagle
http://rapidshare.com/files/12120306/EagleLegaliser.zip.html
(my files do open with freeware version)

Thanks very much for your effort & kindness ...

BTW, any plan for 'EagleLegaliser' to legalize eagle 4.16r2 .... I using this version. Anyway, dont worry ... I also have eagle v4.16r1 & v4.16.

 Grin
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2007, 01:34:46 13:34 »

eSilviu,

One more thing, how do you make the box for the programmer? are you send out to company to make ? how much cost/unit & how min unit to order ?

If you make it at home, how you print 'PGC PGD GND Vdd Vpp' on the box ( box front view)? ... just curios ...& so good qood quality.

rgd
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2007, 04:19:23 16:19 »

1. eagle legalizer - "legalize" *.sch and *. brd files created with crached version of eagle

2. it'n not home-made box (i wish to have that power  Roll Eyes )
i buy-it (electronics shop)
it depends on what are disponnible to you

3. VPP, gnd,.... writed by iron transfer (like the PCB)  Grin carefully not to melt the box!
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« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2007, 02:51:00 02:51 »

eSilviu

Thanks ...  Cool
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« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2007, 08:01:45 08:01 »

Hi, esilviu, thanks for the sharing !! But fail to open the file !! Please help !! I'm using Eagle 4.16r1 & Eagle 4.16r2 to open also fail !! I got the message " LOAD Error 283 on file " Thanks.
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« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2007, 10:27:35 10:27 »

(i programed my 18f2550 with a simple jdm2 programmer, powered by serial port, with WinPic
http://freenet-homepage.de/dl4yhf/winpicpr.html)
works great too
would u pls advise share your 'simple jdm2 programmer' for programming 18F2550? Thanks.
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« Reply #13 on: January 20, 2007, 02:59:46 14:59 »

Hi, esilviu, thanks for the sharing !! But fail to open the file !! Please help !! I'm using Eagle 4.16r1 & Eagle 4.16r2 to open also fail !! I got the message " LOAD Error 283 on file " Thanks.

try with eagle legalizer
http://rapidshare.com/files/12552912/eagle_legalizer.zip.html (i modified and the upper link)

but,... i registered my eagle 4.16r2 as freeware, and it's open all files posted here  Huh
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« Reply #14 on: January 20, 2007, 03:26:09 15:26 »

Hi, I've tried with the eagle_legalizer but still won't work. May I know how to use the eagle_legalizer ? Thanks.

I've tried with version 4.13 and it can be open but I had found a problem inside the layout, it is the USB connector PINS I've figured out that the D+ and D- is short also the VBUS and GND is short when the GREEN PADS is visible in the PCB layout. Thanks.
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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2007, 04:04:56 16:04 »

Here the files TESTED OK with eagle 4.16r1 & 4.16r2.

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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2007, 04:07:14 16:07 »

Here the files TESTED OK with eagle 4.16r1 & 4.16r2.



Thanks. Iphone !! But where is the file Huh
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2007, 04:09:54 16:09 »

Hmmm ... I attach to sonsivri .... but the attachment not working ....  Huh

Wait ...  I will upload to rapidshare.com

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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2007, 04:15:16 16:15 »

Here ... http://rapidshare.com/files/12711165/Brenner_8_eagle-OK.rar.html
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2007, 04:23:08 16:23 »

Thanks !! Iphone !! But did you realize the SHORT on the layout ?? Is it ok ??
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2007, 04:35:03 16:35 »

But did you realize the SHORT on the layout ?? Is it ok ??

FAIL !!! ... the all pin cannot be SHORT as the 4 pins is for Vcc, Gnd , Data+ (D+) & Data- (D-).

So, its need to be modified.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2007, 04:55:55 16:55 »

But did you realize the SHORT on the layout ?? Is it ok ??

FAIL !!! ... the all pin cannot be SHORT as the 4 pins is for Vcc, Gnd , Data+ (D+) & Data- (D-).

So, its need to be modified.


is is so hard for you to cut the layout width a cutter ?!!!!!!
this is price for large pads on board
pictures posted are made with the files posted in forum
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2007, 04:58:30 16:58 »

would u pls advise share your 'simple jdm2 programmer' for programming 18F2550? Thanks.

par example:
http://www.instructables.com/id/EN28KZDDYVEP286GRI/

there are many pages on internet about jdm2 programmer
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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2007, 05:30:14 17:30 »

is is so hard for you to cut the layout width a cutter ?!!!!!!
this is price for large pads on board
pictures posted are made with the files posted in forum

eSilviu,

Sorry if my post look a bit harsh. I just to highlight it in case someone just copy your work and make a PCB without reliase there is a short circuit. If the short circuit is not be corrected,  it will distrub PC or Laptop that being used to connect to this programmer.

That all my points.
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« Reply #24 on: January 22, 2007, 01:46:07 01:46 »

But did you realize the SHORT on the layout ?? Is it ok ??

FAIL !!! ... the all pin cannot be SHORT as the 4 pins is for Vcc, Gnd , Data+ (D+) & Data- (D-).

So, its need to be modified.


is is so hard for you to cut the layout width a cutter ?!!!!!!
this is price for large pads on board
pictures posted are made with the files posted in forum

Hi, eSilviu, please don't mis-understand iphone, he just trying to make me understand because I'm start learning for PIC. Sorry !! also iphone sorry for being mis-understanding by eSiliviu. Thanks !!
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