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« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2023, 12:35:50 00:35 » |
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If you want you can do it. I think a lot of people will prefer the simple design, to be honest. Something they can also quickly knock up on strip-board if they don't want to get a pcb. It will be more doable with standard TH parts. We will need a small 12V regulator (78L12) to supply the two chips if it is going to be used over 12 V. We don't need the zener then.
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« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2023, 12:55:50 00:55 » |
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ok i will use a 78L12 , was just starting with schematics and thought i'd make it smd going to change it to TH then. might be better when fiddling at home
i agree with you, if a simpler solution works good i would use it preferably.
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« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2023, 01:25:08 01:25 » |
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Maybe make it a 78L09, then it will still regulate with 12 V systems, as it requires 10.7 V input to maintain regulation. With the jumper you can select if you want the low 6 V operation.
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« Reply #78 on: February 18, 2023, 01:43:18 01:43 » |
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there are LDO types a 10v might work i will add a note about it
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« Reply #79 on: February 18, 2023, 01:46:07 01:46 » |
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I like the 78 series because they are really easy and cheap to get hold of. Nothing special. Old school.
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« Reply #80 on: February 18, 2023, 03:08:15 03:08 » |
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I had to change the 4093 to 4011 since my breadboard test gave very limited adjustment due to the 4093's hysteresis band. I did not work as well like in Proteus.
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« Reply #81 on: February 18, 2023, 06:02:43 06:02 » |
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this is a simpler version 12v only with thru-hole components for making simply at home with a alsmost single layer boards
where there is only one trace that is on the top layer this trace is made si it can easliy be made with a wire
if there is no errors found this would be a final edit
have fun with it
if you want some extra info on the schematic sheet let me know.
have fun with it
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« Reply #82 on: February 18, 2023, 06:33:24 06:33 » |
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Don't you think having a jumper when 6 V operation is wanted will be a good option? Like I have it in my diagram.
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« Reply #83 on: February 18, 2023, 07:43:06 07:43 » |
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and i thought that was for sonething else, i will fix that, now i get it it was both 6v and 12v operation i thought it was 12v only thats why.
UPDATED !! with a jumper for 6v and 12v operation
Posted on: 2023-02-18, 07:07:23 - Automerged
i found an error in schematic now fixed
it will complain over missing gerber x2 files you disregardds this and delete those in "Generated Gergber X2"
i know this is a low voltage circuit, one can alllways make bigger spacing on IC1 voltage regulator. it coule make it easier to solder as well
do as you wish with it
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« Reply #84 on: February 20, 2023, 12:27:06 00:27 » |
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Here is an interesting book (+100 pages pdf) on the theory and design of vibrator-type-power supplies. Lots of info on the transformer design, etc. Link in txt doc.
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« Reply #85 on: February 20, 2023, 05:11:43 05:11 » |
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a simple vibrator may look simple but it is a lot of things to think of when making it and adjusting it, i starting to read document and many interesting things one might not really think about
i recommend others to read it as well its a good book and i am even starting to read it
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